Wednesday, May 25, 2022

Bechdel Test: The Threeboot

 So I was finally able to track down all the Threeboot issues and render an analysis.  Recently, I have come to respect the Threeboot, which is Legion of Superheroes volume 5/Supergirl & The Legion of Superheroes as of issue 16.  I think Mark Waid had a lot of great ideas and excellent storytelling.  It really is much stronger than Levitz's return to the Legion and way more interesting that Bendis's version of the Legion.  Some people have suggested Bendis and Waid have tried to write their own versions of "modern" teenagers. Wadi's version holds up and his dialog is so much better than Bendis.  

So v5 has primarily three writers:  Mark Waid, Tony Bedard and Jim Shooter.  Waid pretty much controlled the first 2.5 years of the series, however issues 20-22 are credited to Waid and Bedard.  Bedard has a fill-in with issue 29 and Waid's last issue is #30.  Bedard then writes 31-36 before Shooter takes over in issue 37.  Issue 50 is the final issue and is credited to Justin Thyme as Shooter was forced to wrap up the series early and didn't want his name associated with that issue.   The series itself finishes for an overall Bechdel result of :


That's not terrible but it is worth seeing how this breaks down.

Waid and Bedard

Of the 3 issues credited to Waid/Bedard, 2 issues passed for 66%

Of the 26 issues credited to Waid alone, he passed on 13 issues, so 51%.  Adjusted percentage for co-writing would be 53%

Of the 7 issues credit to Bedard alone, only 2 pass 😱  for a lowly 28%.  Adjusted percentage for co-writing would be 40%.    Based on Tony's fail rate, I'm inclined to believe the co-written issues passed because of Mark Waid.  Some of the issues Bedard wrote barely have any female characters.  

I think one of the successes for Mark Waid was one of the surefire writing crutches for the Legion: having a parent involved.  This time, it is Saturn Girl's mother so she helped up the pass rate for at least one issue.  Bringing in Supergirl helped a bit as well has having Theena as a supporting character. Some of why Mark did not pass in some issues is because some of the first year only focused on small squads which meant only 1 or 2 females may have been featured together in the issue.  And remember, they actually have to talk to each other about something OTHER than a man, which can be hard to do if you have Brainiac 5 dominating stories.  

Jim Shooter

So I was quite surprised when I started analyzing this.  Shooter lost Supergirl and didn't have Cosmic Boy, but introduced some new female characters Gazelle and Sizzle.  Sizzle seemed to emulate power-wise a character Shooter knew well: Dazzler.  He also focused heavily on Projectra, and why not?  This was a character he created 50 years prior.  Presumably, he read all Claremont's Dark Phoenix Saga issues so Projectra became his corrupted hero, with all the power and skill of Mastermind. I digress!

But if you know anything about averages, you realize that he had to be pretty strong.  Now if we disregard issue 50 (which passed!), Shooter passed 12 out of 13 issues for the Bechdel test.  He utilized Saturn Girl's mother. He made the female characters talk to each other.  A one-off character was a female that interacted with Projectra.  I mean, that's the way to do it.  Shooter scores a 92% on the Bechdel test.  He's the best one so far.  


Thursday, December 2, 2021

A Case of Shrinking Violet

So when people say that Giffen hated Karate Kid or Sun Boy, I often think that Keith Giffen liked Shrinking Violet.  She's a character though, that I don't think often gets her due, for several reasons.

A "shrinking violet" is an extremely shy person, which is somewhat how Salu Digby was presented, with the play on words that she had the power to shrink.  Like Sue Richards, her power was basically to disappear out of sight.  She failed her first attempt at Legion membership.   She was a member of the Espionage Squad and some classic stories even showed her being strategic on her own, as when she basically beat Grimbor and Charma by herself.  That's a story that showed her being very useful in the beginning by investigating the locks on the shackles for Superboy and Timber Wolf. 

As most people know, Vi was captured and impersonated by Yera, who later became Chameleon Girl.  This experience changed her.  It hardened her to an extent.  Her personality sorta goes all over the place until she and Lightning Lass start bonding.  Shrinking Violet did need some work as a character, it's just a shame that most of the missions we see her on, it is actually Yera.  

Vi became a key member of the 5YL for which I think Giffen may have had some hand in.  She had some significant storylines in the Reboot.  We didn't see much of her Threeboot counterpart, Atom Girl, but she did have some interesting moments.  We didn't get much of Shrinking Violet throughout the Retroboot either. Her only big win is in the v6 annual where she defeats the Emerald Eye. That issue was co-written by Keith Giffen.   And the Bendis Legion version didn't even utter one word balloon.  I think it's safe to say, Vi often ends up being a somewhat ignored Legionnaire.  I have to ask myself why.  

COMPARISONS

There are a fair amount of shrinking characters between Marvel and DC.  DC had the Doll Man, Atom, Blue Jay, Elasti-Girl and Bumblebee.  Marvel had a few Ant-Men, Wasp, Yellowjacket (the female one), Stature, Thumbelina and Micromax.  There are probably a few others I'm missing.  The one thing to note is many of these characters were scientists.  Many of them could grow as well as shrink.  Some could fly.  And some of them had other gimmicks as well, like energy blasts.  

So what does Vi have?  Well, she is not a scientist.  She can fly via her flight ring, but so can all the other Legionnaires. Shrinking Violet temporarily gained the power to grow from Thora in Adventure 368.  Reboot Vi was granted the power to grow permanently. And I'm not sure we ever saw LeViathan shrinking much after that. 

The reality is Shrinking Violet doesn't have anything power-wise that sets her apart. She has to rely on hand-to-hand combat, though I feel it may just be laziness or a lack of proper scripting that doesn't show Vi using her powers in battle. 


  

DURLANS

I'm not sure when the first time Chameleon Boy assumed the form of a small insect.  Durlans don't seem to have a lot of mass restrictions for their shape changing, which means they can become a large beast or become the size of a fly.  They can basically approximate Violet's powers for all intents and purposes.  We even saw in the Retroboot that Durlans can copy the powers people in their proximity.  Side note: I don't think Durlans need to be that powerful.  Nevertheless, it appears that Cham could not go subatomic without Vi present, in v7 when they enter Validus's prison cell.  But with Cham, he is also the Legion detective and a lateral thinker.  When they are both in a story together, he ends up getting the spotlight over her, even though she has shown detective skills as well.  But as stated previously, Durlans shrink enough not to cause suspicion that Yera was impersonating Vi.  Anything Vi can do, Cham can do better?

POTENTIAL

Vi certainly had some battle prowess.  She was noted for it even in the Reboot. Remember how I said she delivered the victory against Grimbor and Charma?  Consider this page:

Really, you can't do much better than this for solving a problem.  To me, it's no surprise that this character later became leader of the Legion at the tail end of the 5YL run.  The only problem is so many Legionnaires also show similar potential for leading squads or teams.  In fact, Tinya was the deputy leader of the Espionage Squad, not Vi.  

RELEVANT?

Shrinking Violet has what I like to call a 20th century power.  What I mean, is that during the 20th century, it works well for different things but doesn't hold us so well in future stories.  Anyone who watches Star Trek (24th century) knows how their computers can scan for life signs on a ship or planet.  Scanners would likely be able to detect an Imskian infiltrator.  I would assume anyone who watches any sci-fi would think similarly of the 31st century.  This is where the hard truth comes in that if you view the Legion as a sci-fantasy book, it's really hard to make her useful in a battle scenario against star ships or multiple enemies.  Shrinkers can be useful, but they are only good for one enemy at a time, whereas someone like Shadow Lass may be able to crowd control several opponents while another Legionnaire attacks.  It was the Atom's intelligence, coupled with his shrinking power, that allowed him to defeat Darkseid.  However, to make another shrinking character a genius is about as inspired as making your electrical characters also Black.  

Vi is the only Legionnaire that can go subatomic.  But how often does a superteam need that particular skill set?  Not often.  Also, with the 31st century, once can presume nanotech becomes more and more advanced.  You don't need a shrinker to enter into someone's bloodstream to do something.

THE POWERS

As Atom Girl, Salu had access to dual pistols.  


She was the only Threeboot Legionnaire who regularly carried weapons.  It may have had something to do with her being in some microverse.  I don't have a problem necessarily with Legionnaires using weapons; it is nicer though when the weapons work with their power in some fashion. However, having any type of blaster will immediately draw comparisons to Wasp.   This scene does give me something to ponder.  

We don't know much about how Shrinking Violet's powers work.  Adaptation to pulsating world?  I think we need to scrap that origin.  The Threeboot almost hints at a connection with Brainiac shrinking technology.  What we see in these panels is the guns shrink and grow with Atom Girl.  Obviously, her flight ring and costume always shrank and grew with her.  Perhaps she does have the ability to cause objects in her immediate possession to shrink and grow with her.  We are going a little into Pym territory with that power but she would have the limitation that she can't increase the size of an object past its original size, whereas Ant-Man and Wasp in their movie would use Pym particles to grow objects to a larger size. The downside to shrinking enemies though is that no one else would be able to fight them, so maybe it's not super useful.  

Ray Palmer was able to assert some control over his mass so he could hit harder.  Coupling that with her flight ring could make Vi a much harder hitter against an enemy.  I fear that's also an easy one to give to a Durlan too.

There isn't a rule that she couldn't have some sort of microscopic vision.  If you don't have Sensor Girl in the Legion, it's not going to hurt having another character with some enhanced vision powers. You have to figure, once she shrinks, her eyes can't perceive light the same way.  Electron microscopes don't work on light.  Microscopic vision could also play into her being a bit more of a detective as well.  

Is that enough?  The strength of the Legion has usually been its members with "quiet" superpowers though that is when the stories give them a chance to shine.

THE FUTURE

Shrinking Violet has not played a part in Bendis's Legion.  He seemed more focused on certain characters.  It remains to be seen if he will give some time to some other characters. I do wonder what the point of including her is if you don't do anything with her.  I know Bendis doesn't care about that stuff and thinks we should either.  



Tuesday, November 9, 2021

Bechdel Test: Legion Lost v2

I can't believe I forgot this one.  Yikes.  I didn't give the series a full reading but it's not a memorable one.  LL v2 feature a smaller set of Legionnaires with only 2 females, Chameleon Girl and Dawnstar.  That could be a hindrance to it passing.  Let's find out.  

So to refresh  your memory, this series starts out written by Fabian Nicienza for 6 issues.  Tom Defalco has a co-writing credit for issues 6 and takes over solo after that.  How did they do?

Niciena - 17%

Fabian only succeeds in the first issue.  Yera is presumed dead as of issue 2 but resurfaces a few issues later.  Her absence doesn't help.

Defalco -42%

Tom's contribution has a lot of crossovers with Titans.  Because we see Ravage, Caitlin Fairchild and others, he starts off strong with 5 issues in a row.  After that, not so much.  The 0 issue is a Timber Wolf spotlight.  Tom's run tried to do some stuff and it's hard to say whether the crossover's helped or hurt.  

I don't have much else to say about this.  There was a little too much infighting going on with the characters for me to enjoy this.  Yera seemed to have some moments of development but she was depicted as having a failed relationship with Colossal Boy.  That contradicted Gim's story in v7.  

Again, we have a lack of female supporting characters that doesn't help interactions either. The interaction, when they happen, are overall positive, i.e. not discussing a man. I guess we can give the full series a dismal 





Monday, October 25, 2021

Bechdel Test: Adventure Comics, the return

Bear with me on this one.  The numbering changed on Adventure, starting at #1 then taking over the old v1 Adventure numbering.  As I mentioned in my last post, Adventure did not start with just the Legion.  It read more as a Superman-family book with the aftermath of Legion of 3 Worlds. Some of the issues focus on Connor Kent which I won't count as Legion stories.  There was a Superboy-Prime story that I won't count either.   

Adventure starts with Geoff Johns on the first issue, with some later issues credited to Johns and Michael Shoemaker.  As some of the issues feat split stories, they don't feature a full Legion cast, only maybe 4 characters or so.  The Last Stand of New Krypton also runs through as well with most of that being written by Sterling Gates and James Robinson.  Levitz's run on Adventure starts with some "classic" Legion style stories in issue 12.  There is no issue 13 as the series goes from 12 to 516.   Issue 521 joins Retroboot continuity and 523 focuses on the Academy.  The series ends with 529.

Funny side note:  Supergirl appears in issue 520.  Invisible Kid is also listed as Jacques even when it is clearly Lyle. Continuity what?

The Legion does not appear in issues 5, 6, or 7.  The non-Levitz issues do not pass the Bechdel test.  Sensor Girl was the only female Legionnaire in the Last Stand storyline.  So I guess you can say Johns, Gates and Robinson are all zeroes with the Bechdel test.  

I think I will just give each individual issue for simplicity's sake

12- Levitz - N

516 - Levitz -N

517 - Levitz - Y (focused on Saturn Girl and she talks with new character Esquivel)

518 - Levitz - N

519 - Levitz - N

520 - Levitz - N

521 - Levitz - N

522 - Levitz - N Sorry, I have to be a dick here and say the only female characters with dialog are GiGi and Harmonia.  No female Legionnaires say anything. 

523 - Levitz/Jiminez - Y

524 - Levitz/Jiminez  - N

525 - Levitz/Jiminez - Y

526 - Levitz - Y

527 - Levitz - Y

528 - Levitz - Y

529 - Levitz - Y

Again, I have to wonder if there is a trend that when Levitz has a co-writer, he is more likely to pass the Bechdel test.  It also helps that there is a large portion of female characters in the Academy stories.  While issue 526 already passed in the main story, the XS backup also passes because Levitz had Night Girl talking to XS.  He could have sent Bouncing Boy and I'm kinda surprised he didn't.  That's how you pass the Bechdel test though. It's not that hard and it's not artificial or some type of SJW agenda.  

All in all, 12 issues are attributed to Levitz solely and 5 of those pass which is 42%.  If we add in the Levitz/Jiminez issues, that is 7/15 or 47%

Where does that leave everything?

v8 -62.5%

Secret Origin - 0%

v7-42%

v6-29%

Adventure (overall) - 32%

Levitz's track record overall with co-writers (22 out of 62 issues)- 35% passing.

Up next:  v5 or the Threeboot.  It might take me a while for this since I want to revisit Mark Waid's run, but also Jim Shooter. I want to see how Waid's run holds up but also, people think Shooter's run was bad and I remember liking it.

Tuesday, October 12, 2021

Bechdel Test: V6 Retroboot

Again, I am working backwards here.  After doing Secret Origin, I was not looking forward to V6.  So I am just going to rip off the band-aid here.  How did Levitz do?

There are 5 out of 17 issues (16 plus the annual) that pass the Bechdel test, and I'm being generous here.  That is an abysmal 



So some observations about this volume. While this builds off of what Geoff Johns had wrote, we have Night Girl shipped off to the Academy and XS in Limbo. There are 27 Legionnaires we see in this volume; only 9 are female and some don't last the whole way through (Saturn Girl, Lightning Lass, Shrinking Violet, Phantom Girl, Dawnstar, Sensor Girl, Shadow Lass, Dream Girl, Chameleon Girl).  Saturn Girl is in the first arc, but she is remanded back to reserve status after.  Now, I haven't read the Geoff Johns "Superman & LSH" story in a while so I can't remember if he was writing her as an active member or just came out of retirement.  If we remember V3, Imra and Garth both gave up active membership but Imra returned.  Sensor Girl goes inactive after the events of the annual which is about halfway through this volume.  Chameleon Girl is largely ignored as an active member.  Harmonia and GiGi are 2 female supporting characters but that barely helps.  

Despite the fight for representation, the other part of this is Levitz really doesn't write his female characters well.  Cham, Tinya and Yera are standing outside in the rain for a mission, no transuits which would keep them dry, but Tinya could go intangible to stay dry.  I know that seems really nitpicky but it makes total sense and is a fun visual.  Cham also has to tell Tinya to stay intangible while infiltrating.  This should be second nature for Tinya.  It's silly how she gets knocked out by a rock in issue 2.  Ayla is not written very well even though she is a big gun.  Shady barely uses her powers throughout.  Vi doesn't really get any spotlight until the Annual.  

When we do see two females interact, there are 4 times they are discussing a man.  Dawnstar and Nura are on a mission together with Gates in issue 2 but there really isn't any interaction between them.  The standout issue for passing the Bechdel test is the annual which shares a writing credit with Giffen.  Now, it helps that Ayla and Vi are the focus of the issue and that their antagonist is the Emerald Empress.  Also, because of location of Orando, Sensor Girl is involved too.  Is it because of Giffen's involvement that this issue passes?  It's not clear, but between V6 and V7, there are 3 issues with writing credit to Giffen/Levitz and 2 of those pass the Bechdel test.  Issue 6 also has the Legion Academy backup but Levitz is credited as Writer.  Jiminez is only listed as artist.

If anyone has any thoughts about Giffen/Levitz being parsed out separately, let me know.  It's often hard to know how much Giffen contributed to a story when he is only credited as artist.  Steve Lightle even contributed to plot in some of his issues back in the day even though not credited as such.  

The next will be the Adventure run.  That is tricky as not all the issues are Legion focused, with some just as backup stories.

Sunday, September 26, 2021

Bechdel Test: Legion Secret Origins

Sorry, I was hoping to have a more regular posting schedule but I've had a lot going on personally, including the death of my mother.  


I didn't want to skip this limited series which came out right around volume 7.  It was pretty unforgettable except for the gorgeous Chris Batista art.  It was six total issues, all written by Paul Levitz.  So how did it turn out?  



That's correct.  Not one issue of this series passed the Bechdel test.

My notes:

This series had very few female characters.  The precog whom I'm not sure had a name, Saturn Girl, Triplicate Girl and Phantom Girl.  What would have changed it is actually: just making one of the other characters than the Naltorian was working with a female.  There wasn't really a reason Levitz couldn't have made another of the characters female.  But the lack of female characters meant it was be more difficult to have two females have a conversation for the Bechdel test. 

Triplicate Girl barely had any dialog.  There is a conversation between her and Phantom Girl in issue 5 and what do they talk about?  Ultra Boy.  And Superman.   Any incidental characters were also male.  

Not much more to say here.  If we are keeping track of Levitz as a writer, he has 10 passes out of 30 issues, making him overall at 30%.  Volume 6 will be next.

Tuesday, September 7, 2021

Bechdel Test - V7 (nu52)

This will be my first evaluation of Paul Levitz material.  I always felt like the Retroboot was an overall regression in Paul's Legion writing.  I was curious to see how this one panned out, considering the makeup of this Legion was near 50-50 male to female ratio.  Even though Yera and Dawnstar were moved to Legion Lost, there was a gain of Glorith, Harmonia, Comet Queen and Dragonwing.  I will also point out that issues 17 and 18 are shared Giffen/Levitz writing.  This also includes the 0 issue as well. 

How did Levitz do?  10 out of 24 issues.



I don't think this was a good showing at all.  Some of my notes:

1. There were 3 separate instances of two female characters discussing a man, specifically admiring them or discussing a relationship of sorts.
2. I have two instances where they technically count, Nura after she slaps Comet Queen after betraying them.  And Otaki and Duplicates girl talking about strategy. 
3. The Saturn Girl vs. Emerald Empress battle was counted in issue 22
4.  Issue 17 only featured 6 total Legionnaires, not counting the now dead Sun Boy.  Both Glorith and Phantom Girl were on separate teams. 

Now many female characters were represented, Phantom Girl especially which may have had something to do with her leadership vote but she really did not interact with many females other than being with Dragonwing on an early mission and there was no interaction between them. There were a lot of missions that were male oriented too 

What worked:  Harmonia being a scientist helped greatly as she could help fulfill that role instead of Brainiac.  Dragonwing's journey to China helped and gave some great positive representation by having her fight her sister. 

So far the rankings are 
v8 - 62.5%
v7 - 42%

Next, I think I will do the Legion Secret Origin since that fits in with v7.